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Fauci Unfazed as Scientists Rely on Unproven Methods to Create COVID Vaccines

Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. (Jim Lo Scalzo/EPA/Bloomberg via Getty Images)

With millions of lives on the line, researchers have been working at an unprecedented pace to develop a COVID-19 vaccine.

But that speed 鈥 and some widely touted breakthroughs 鈥 belie the enormous complexity and potential risks involved. Researchers have an incomplete understanding of the coronavirus and are using technology that鈥檚 largely unproven.

Among many worries: A on COVID-19 survivors suggest that antibodies 鈥 key immune system proteins that fight infection 鈥 within months. That鈥檚 led scientists to worry that the protection provided by vaccines could fade quickly as well. Some even the pandemic. If vaccines produce limited protection against infection, experts note, people will need to continue wearing masks and social distancing even after vaccines roll out.

Yet in an interview with KHN, the country鈥檚 top infectious disease expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci, said he鈥檚 鈥渃autiously optimistic鈥 that researchers will overcome such obstacles.

鈥淲e know the body can make an adequate response against this virus鈥 after two shots of a vaccine being tested, Fauci said. 鈥淭here鈥檚 no reason to believe that we won鈥檛 be able to develop a vaccine against it.鈥

Because began , doctors don鈥檛 know how long antibodies in vaccinated people will last, he said.

Scientists will get answers to some of their questions from the country鈥檚 , launched last week by the National Institutes of Health and Moderna at 89 locations around the country.

鈥淥nce we get a protective response, we will see how long it lasts,鈥 Fauci said.

鈥淚f we don鈥檛 get as long a response as we want, we can always give a booster shot.鈥

The are based on new approaches that have . Moderna, a relatively young company, has yet to produce any approved vaccines.

鈥淓ven more so than usual, as we create vaccines, we鈥檙e sailing in uncharted water,鈥 said Dr. William Schaffner, a professor at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine.

If approved, a COVID vaccine created by researchers at would be the first licensed vaccine to use a virus that causes colds in chimpanzees but doesn鈥檛 sicken people. Scientists use the cold virus to deliver key elements of the vaccine into a patient鈥檚 body. In this case, the virus delivers the gene that instructs the cell to make the spike protein, which helps the novel coronavirus enter cells.

Early studies show that the Oxford vaccine stimulates the immune system as intended. If the vaccine is successful, these antibodies and other immune cells will recognize and neutralize the spike protein if they encounter it again, protecting people from disease.

Two other candidates 鈥 a vaccine from and another from , a German company 鈥 were also developed with novel methods. They use genetic material from the coronavirus called , or mRNA.

Unlike traditional vaccines, which expose the body to a viral protein to stimulate the immune system, telling the body how to construct the proteins itself. The immune system then responds to the viral protein by making antibodies.

Moderna officials have said they were able to produce the COVID-19 vaccine so rapidly because they had developed experimental vaccines against two other lethal coronaviruses 鈥 those that cause 鈥 which are closely related to the COVID-19 virus.

When the pandemic emerged, Moderna tweaked those vaccines to target COVID-19, Fauci told KHN. Fauci鈥檚 team contacted the company the day after China made the virus鈥檚 genome public.

Two months later, Moderna鈥檚 vaccine was ready for a trial because 鈥98% of the scientific work had been done,鈥 Schaffner said. 鈥淭hey went back to these scientific methods and adapted them very quickly. That saves years of work.鈥

But there is a potential risk in relying so heavily on unproven techniques: New technology can sometimes cause unforeseen problems or side effects, said Dr. Amesh Adalja, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security.

For all their differences, most of the vaccines in development target the spike protein, Adalja said. That is likely a winning strategy, considering successful veterinary coronavirus vaccines also target the spike protein.

But some scientists say this uniform approach could also leave us vulnerable.

Ideally, scientists should diversify the portfolio of vaccines, in case targeting the spike protein doesn鈥檛 work as well as researchers hope, Adalja said. Developing a vaccine that targets other key proteins might help scientists to hedge their bets.

Researchers around the world are working on more than 165 vaccines; more than two dozen are already being tested in people. Early human studies focus on safety and finding the best dose. Later clinical trials are larger and measure a vaccine鈥檚 effectiveness by comparing the outcomes of volunteers who receive the vaccine with those of people given a placebo.

Fauci said he鈥檚 reassured by that showed the Moderna vaccine to be safe. Although some volunteers developed fevers and headaches after vaccination, these side effects were no worse than those caused by other licensed vaccines.

鈥淭hat鈥檚 not a showstopper at all,鈥 he said.

A Perplexing Pathogen

Some of COVID-19鈥檚 most important mysteries involve the immune system, said Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children鈥檚 Hospital of Philadelphia.

Offit said he鈥檚 mystified by the fact that a small fraction of people with COVID-19 don鈥檛 make any antibodies against the virus. He knows of no other virus that does this.

鈥淲e鈥檙e only seven months into this and we鈥檝e had a lot of surprises,鈥 said Offit, a member of a to develop vaccines and drugs to treat COVID-19. 鈥淭his virus does things that no other virus does.鈥

This is not like preventing measles. 鈥淚t鈥檚 easier to create a vaccine for diseases that confer long-term immunity,鈥 Offit said. People never catch measles more than once. The two-dose measles vaccine stimulates immunity, protecting 97% of people for life, Offit said.

It鈥檚 also not like strep throat or gonorrhea, which people can catch multiple times because the bacteria that cause them don鈥檛 ignite lasting immunity. 鈥淭hat鈥檚 why we don鈥檛 have a vaccine for them,鈥 he said.

Some coronaviruses cause more serious symptoms than others. Coronaviruses that cause the common cold don鈥檛 stimulate lasting , which is one reason people can catch colds repeatedly, Schaffner said.

Studies show that antibodies against more lethal coronaviruses last a bit longer. Antibodies against the virus, which caused a pandemic in 2003, and the virus, which appeared in 2011, appear to last two to three years.

People with severe symptoms from COVID-19 tend to have higher antibody levels than those with milder cases.

Some people fail to generate antibodies because they have compromised immune systems, said Mark Sangster, a research professor at the University of Rochester Medical Center.

Even when people do generate antibodies against the novel coronavirus, studies suggest the antibodies may not last long.

In a recent report on COVID-19 survivors, antibody levels dropped rapidly over three months, at a rate that could leave them . Those findings echo the results of a that found antibody levels began to fall two to three months after infection.

Such reports have , who fear that antibodies will decline just as rapidly among people vaccinated against COVID-19.

鈥淥ne wants a vaccine that lasts longer than two months,鈥 Schaffner said.

Other antibody research has been more encouraging.

found that COVID-19 infection 鈥渋nduces robust, neutralizing antibody responses that are stable for at least three months.鈥 Antibodies typically rise during an infection, then fall again as the immune system returns to normal, said Florian Krammer, co-author of the study, which was published online before undergoing peer review.

鈥淲hat we found looks like a normal antibody response to a viral infection,鈥 said Krammer, a professor of microbiology at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in New York.

Early studies of the Moderna vaccine suggest people mount a strong immune response after two doses, Fauci said. But because the earliest trials began just a few months ago, doctors don鈥檛 yet know how long antibodies in vaccinated people will last.

The United States has invested in potential .

Conflicting evidence on antibodies 鈥渟houldn鈥檛 interfere with efforts to develop a safe and effective vaccine,鈥 added Fauci, noting he鈥檚 encouraged by the results of early clinical trials. 鈥淭he durability of the vaccine may be quite good.鈥

Dr. Michael Watson, who is developing Moderna鈥檚 COVID-19 vaccine, said he hopes vaccinated people will have a stronger immune response than those sickened by the coronavirus. He said it鈥檚 possible the virus not only infects cells, but also dampens the immune system, suppressing antibody response.

A vaccine that contains only one part of the novel coronavirus 鈥 a protein that allows it to enter cells 鈥 might be able to stimulate antibody production without suppressing the immune response, Watson said. Only large clinical studies will show whether this is the case.

Memories That Don鈥檛 Fade

Yet there鈥檚 more to the immune system than antibodies.

The body is also protected by memory T-cells, which can recognize viral threats to stimulate the production of antibodies even after many years, said Dr. Jeffrey Klausner, professor of infectious diseases at UCLA. Memory T-cells can stimulate B-cells to make antibodies, while instructing other immune system players to fight the virus in different ways.

鈥淭he T-cells are like the conductors of a symphony,鈥 Klausner said. 鈥淭hese multiple, complex arms of the immune system work together like a symphony to control infection.鈥

Even if antibodies dwindle over time, memory cells can often replenish the supply, preventing infected patients from developing dangerous symptoms, Sangster said.

suggest people who survive COVID-19 develop both and . even documented memory T-cells 鈥攚hich can instruct other cells to make antibodies 鈥 in pandemic.

Fauci said it鈥檚 too early to know what sort of role T-cells will play in defending against the novel coronavirus.

Researchers will get more definitive answers about vaccine-induced immunity to COVID-19 in coming months, after they complete large, rigorous trials of tens of thousands of volunteers, Offit said. Vaccine makers have said they plan to study their products鈥 safety and effectiveness even after approval, to measure long-term efficacy as well to detect rare side effects that don鈥檛 appear in smaller, shorter studies.

In addition to Moderna鈥檚 trial, AstraZeneca said results from an ongoing study of 50,000 volunteers .

With so many vaccines in development, Adalja said, it鈥檚 difficult to know which one will prove the safest and most effective.

鈥淭he first vaccines may not be the ultimate vaccine that everybody uses,鈥 he said.

And some vaccines may work better in certain populations than others, Offit said. For example, studies may find that one shot works particularly well in children, while another better protects older adults. 鈥淭here is definitely a lot to learn,鈥 he said.

Ideally, doctors would like all vaccines to be as successful as the measles shot, Offit said. But a COVID-19 vaccine could more closely resemble flu shots and rotavirus vaccines, which don鈥檛 prevent all infections but dramatically reduce the risks of hospitalization and death. Although some people who receive a flu shot still get influenza, their infections tend to be much milder than those of people who aren鈥檛 vaccinated.

鈥淵ou鈥檇 like to have a vaccine that protects against severe disease, and it likely will,鈥 Offit said. 鈥淏ut people might still get mild infections and still shed the virus and still spread it鈥 even after being vaccinated.

If that happens, Offit said, the vaccine may not slow the spread of the pandemic as much as people have hoped. 鈥淵ou鈥檇 still need masks and social distancing鈥 to reduce the spread of the virus, Offit said. 鈥淚t鈥檚 going to take both 鈥 a vaccine and these hygienic measures 鈥 to defeat the virus.鈥

KHN editor Arthur Allen contributed to this story.

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